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Mindbloom is a mental health and wellbeing company helping people achieve personal and clinical breakthroughs with at-home, clinician-prescribed psychedelic therapies.
Mike Petegorsky is the Chief Strategy Officer at Mindbloom. Michael was previously a commercial and IP case litigator for Fortune 50 companies at NYC firms Akin Gump and Ropes & Gray. Michael was named One to Watch by Best Lawyers in America and is a charter member of TechGC, an invitation-only community for General Counsels of venture backed high growth startups. He received his J.D. from Fordham University School of Law and B.A. from the University of Pennsylvania.
Other psychedelics episodes to check out
Brom Rector – psychedelic investor: https://youtu.be/XX5QlHbDHBs
Dr. Jacob Aday – psychedelic researcher: https://youtu.be/8JUS92TvGro
Dr. Joseph Zamaria – board-certified psychologist : https://youtu.be/JjpZ2Eqw2XU
Sam Believe – ayahuasca psychedelic retreat: https://youtu.be/1JOmSVheiBw
Dr. Parker Kelley – psychoimmunology, biomedical sciences, psychedelics: https://youtu.be/1M-tN4cnM3Y
PODCAST INFO:
The Learning With Lowell show is a series for the everyday mammal. In this show we’ll learn about leadership, science, and people building their change into the world. The goal is to dig deeply into people who most of us wouldn’t normally ever get to hear. The Host of the show – Lowell Thompson- is a lifelong autodidact, serial problem solver, and founder of startups.
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Mike Petegorsky links
https://www.mindbloom.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-petegorsky-41059614/
Timestamps
00:00 Start / introducing Mike Petegorsky and mindbloom leading business offering at-home ketamine therapy
01:32 Mike Petegorsky’s journey from IP fortune 50 lawyer to Mindbloom
04:30 USA SSRI capital of the world
05:30 Mental health professionals need better resources to help
06:30 Ketamine vs SSRIs vs just therapy
09:30 Withdrawal and ketamine
10:24 why Mike Petegorsky used ketamine / Mindbloom’s ketamine protocol
13:00 Mike Petegorsky’s first ketamine experience
17:40 Psychedelics and ketamine therapy / Mike Petegorsky’s core belief
19:10 Meditation giving more anxiety vs after ketamine therapy
20:25 sam harris meditation app
21:30 Lowell’s experience in the hospital
23:30 “Bad” experiences with Ketamine and provider fails / what ketamine feels like
27:30 Mindbloom therapy explained
28:30 Mike Petegorsky’s IP background applied Mindbloom / Patents in psychedelics
33:30 Mindbloom developing IP
38:15 Mindbloom ketamine therapy cost
40:50 Mindbloom telemedicine benefits / anxiety, PTSD, convenience
42:20 VFW partnership to help veterans with anxiety, depression, and PTSD
45:00 Mike Petegorsky path to Congress / telemedicine / psychedelics
50:41 Mike Petegorsky’s process to get Congress to take his meetings
53:30 Mindbloom Not outsourcing core competency / how to high level network
57:20 Psychedelics vs other therapies to help people
59:24 Cold Emails / Cold out reach / People want to help
01:02:30 Respecting people’s time
01:03:45 Mindbloom & 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership
01:06:18 MDMA’s FDA federal approval drama explained
01:08:50 FDA committee wrong on all counts / Effectiveness and safety
01:16:22 Placebo vs control group
01:16:50 Why Mike Petegorsky believes the FDA is going to approve anyway
01:18:30 People need MDMA now / safety explained
01:26:40 Bias in the FDA committee against psychedelics
01:30:40 Potential for bias and undue influence
01:32:43 Why FDA will over rule FDA committee
01:33:35 Mindbloom future psychedelic therapies / Dr. Joe Zamaria question
01:36:18 Mindbloom focus vs doing too much at once
01:38:00 MDMA truck / buses and law response
01:40:20 “If you will it, it is no dream”
01:41:05 Mindbloom dot com